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	<title>Comments on: Amazing to see how many marketers spam&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Isabel Hilborn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabel Hilborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
Personally I think of Cluetrain as more of a list of truths (markets are conversations) than a how-to book.  So I don't know whether it is appropriate to ask if it "works" - unless we are asking, have these truths become more commonplace, and are companies acting like they understand?

I think what Francois is saying is that lots of people still don't understand these truths.  But there is a huge contingent of people who are on board, and in that way the book has been a great success.  I really like the idea of doing a Cluetrain conference.  Share best practices to help the clueless. Maybe we should talk to Doc and David and those guys about doing it in Boston.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<script type='text/javascript' src='http://www.sezwho.com/widgets/profile/js_output/wp/limau-orange-01/1.3/1.3/89751d15b267e1e29548f9cf03bfdada/475d4e1070baa'></script><script type="text/javascript">var sz_global_config_params = {cppluginurl:"http://www.emergencemarketing.com/wp-content/plugins/sezwho",cpserverurl:"http://www.sezwho.com", sitekey:"89751d15b267e1e29548f9cf03bfdada",blogkey:"475d4e1070baa",blogid:"0", plugin_version:"1.3"} ; </script><p>John,<br />
Personally I think of Cluetrain as more of a list of truths (markets are conversations) than a how-to book.  So I don&#8217;t know whether it is appropriate to ask if it &#8220;works&#8221; - unless we are asking, have these truths become more commonplace, and are companies acting like they understand?</p>
<p>I think what Francois is saying is that lots of people still don&#8217;t understand these truths.  But there is a huge contingent of people who are on board, and in that way the book has been a great success.  I really like the idea of doing a Cluetrain conference.  Share best practices to help the clueless. Maybe we should talk to Doc and David and those guys about doing it in Boston.<script type="text/javascript" id="szCommentHiddenTag:679">var sz_comment_config_params = {use_cross_domain_posting:1,post_id:"966", comment_rating_submit_path:"/cpratingsubmit.php",sortOrder:"",sz_auto_comment:0,sz_auto_option_bar:0,comment_number:2, sz_comment_data:[]};sz_comment_config_params.sz_comment_data[0]= {comment_id:"679", comment_author:"Isabel%20Hilborn", comment_author_url:"http://blog.isabelhilborn.com", comment_author_email:"b743uxiQEaIXIKfgto%2BkFalIppYQQ10vdfIhRBdWqU9Z7HX0h%2F4fV4MTZlaB0FYk8vbN0wcuYdFxz1fLRCSMPz%2BOaNuuvhiBj%2B1g%2BAVMRVPx5ePgvETtlN6Rk2bAKOp%2FychF1Zfr2foO9998%2F5r%2BdX9ijY7x832RshClkDZgIAE%3D",sz_score:"4.6",comment_score:"6.5"};</script></p>
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		<title>By: John Cass</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Cass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2008 is the 10th anniversary of the Cluetrain Manifesto do you think the manifesto works? Are there any examples of companies who have enacted every aspect of the thesis? I was thinking it would be wonderful to bring together the authors of the book with some critics in a one-day conference. We might also conduct some research to determine if anyone is living the dream. I think I know of some examples, but really I am not sure if even those companies are following every aspect.
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